What is the most easiest way to don't lost profit from freb?

[Adam]

Hello
I have problem to make some money from freebets? I have some calculators, everybody tell me is completly free risk and profitable. What i am talking about? Dutching. Make qualifing bet, lost it and get freebet. Use Betfair and LAY stake to take around 70% of freebets.

But... .
What happen if i win money on bookie site? I have to wager for example 5 times. It is mean.
I won in Youwin 125 euro. 5.0 x 25 freebet = 125 euro. I have to wager this 5 times... It is equal 625 (!!!).

Seriusly how to don't lost any profit from this? Do you know any gold solutions?
Thank you

[Admin]

Welcome to FEM.
Yes some of the deposit bonuses have WR built in to the offer. The best way of dealing with this is to underlay on the lay bet (that is to not bet so much on the lay as you normally would for a "matched bet".)
In this way you actually "lose" less at betfair ( if you win at the bookie) so the extra bets you have to complete for the WR are taken care of. Always bet the full amount of your funds at the bookie if you can until you reach the WR so if you lose at the bookie and bust out you don't have to worry about the WR anymore.
The good things about these type of offers is you don't have to find odds over 6 (you still must bet over the minimum odds terms though otherwise your bet won't count towards the WR)

[mandrew]

I think youwin is quite unusual in that they make you wager any winnings 5 times, most bookies would make you wager the deposit + bonus a certain amount of times regardless of what you win. This sounds like they're trying to make life more difficult for the likes of you and me.
But yeah underlaying has to be the way to go.

[Adam]

Everyone recommended this method. Is completly free risk. Come on. It is free risk and profitable but if i make bet, get the freebet and leave cash on bookies accounts without withdraw... .

I can do as well something like this. Make bet with high odds.
If i have match with odds like 1.24 x 5.6 x 10.5 so i make bet on 10.5 on bookie and for example 12 LAY on betfair.
I think i have big chance to make profit from here but you know, is not the rule if you put high odds ;)

But is one think more.
I thinking to open some more bookies acc. And if some bet stay on bookies acc i keep money there. And after i try make arbitrage there with another bookies.

But i never do this and i think i freeze money on separate bookies acc for long time.
I was thinking to put around thousands pounds and put stakes like 345 pounds, 125... , not like crazy 24,56 ...

What do you think about this?

[Admin]

Not many people here will advise placing bets in the 1000,s as finding a bookie to place those kinds of stakes will be a problem in itself. Whilst I dont really understand what you're describing - even mathematically sound principles may fail due to bookies not taking the kind of stakes in your example.
Again I say, underlaying is the way to go for these type of offers.

[mandrew]

I would still go for the underlay, the problem here is that the more you win the bigger the wager requirement it seems. So if you back £25 @ 10.5 you will win £237.50 profit that you will have to turnover 5 times.
That's the way I read it from their T&C's anyway.

I'm not sure how I would play this one really but I know I would underlay. High odds do win!