SharpeShooters Blog, the 2nd 10K & Beyond

[SharpeShooter]

The afore mentioned Betfair casino offer that virtually everyone got screwed on, I managed to get a withdrawal out early which slipped under the radar. Subsequent withdrawals were cancelled and loads of people who received withdrawals have had their accounts set to negative balances and the money requested to be put back in. Even worse than this some people who had money in their accounts had the money taken out which left them with considerably less than they started with. Betfair basically withdrew all the bonuses from anyone they deemed to have abused the offer but kept any money the players had lost in doing the wagering. This is such a big deal that Casinomeister has put Betfair Casino on the rogue list. This doesn't affect the Betfair Exchange.

However I, as everyone here knows can walk on water and light up the world from between my arse cheeks (or it's just that I'm unbelievably lucky). I received my first withdrawal ok and my account was reset to £0, which was what I had in before I started. So I am the only person I am aware of that abused the offer and got away with it, to the tune of £5k

[jethro]

Well, that makes me feel better so youv'e only made 4k+ since aug. i'm not that far behind then, iv'e prob made just over 3k, as i'm not so efficient with my records, and tend not to record reloads on old accounts.
By the way i couldn't have done the betfair offer anyway, ist because i believe it was on a saturday night, and i never miss my saturday night out! and 2nd i was flying to Egypt, for my hols, and wedding aniversary. But i did have some good luck i missed the shark attacks by 3 days! or on the other hand, was it bad luck? The wife was well insured

PS with a 27k float, why have you not tackled te US books ?

[SharpeShooter]

Good Question, simple answer. I'm scared of them

Plus I really don't need to yet. I don't think I would do the US books on any accounts other than my own anyway as they are known to be a lot more efficient in catching "gnomers"

[SharpeShooter]

As Cheltenham is over for another year, I thought I'd make another update. I may do this every 3 months or so as it's not too time consuming !

This year at Cheltenham I made £2,300 profit. The bulk of that was reloads, what if's and arbs. I was very disappointed with the enhanced SUB's but did them anyway on the accounts I've been saving.

Best Bookies for me this Cheltenham in order

1) Victor Chandler, By Miles with Free Bets and refund offers
2) Betfair with the 25% added winnings and a £250 reload
3) Racebets, 1 x SUB & 2 x 20% Reloads
4) William Hill with enhanced odds arbs, Casino reloads and a free £10 bet per account. These were the only arbable book this year
5) Ladbrokes with their £10 per day free bet

Coral refused me the 20% Cashback on SIX accounts costing me £300 in free bets and Betdaq closed ALL my accounts costing me £350 of free bets. Both cited Bonus Abuse.

So to datein the 2 years since I started I have made £59,717
I have paid £9,200 out to friends & family for accounts
I've spent £17,500 on Kitchen, Mortgage etc
My current MB'ing float is £35,000

I've also made a change to my last update as I had under stated the amount I had paid to friends

[Lfceoin]

Very honest writing there Steve and very impressive. Do you mind me asking a couple of questions. When you bet for others do you use moneybookers and send money from your own moneybookers to theirs? Also , do you pay them a one off fee and how much do you think you can make from a new account?

How many laptops do you use? Do you disable iesnare ? Is passport and utility bill enough to start off with a new identity ?

Sorry that lots of questions , feel free to ignore most of them if you don't want to answer .

Cheers
Eoin

[SharpeShooter]

Hi Eoin.

To all members, I realise this may be a lot of info to give out to a Newbie. Eoin is a regular on another Forum where this kind of discussion is forbidden, so I referred him here so I could answer his questions. Eoin regularly finds and shares new offers, he only asks that these are kept to a small number of people to protect the stability of the book. If someone posts here a new offer I request that no one re-post that offer anywhere else. Doing so will only lead to no new offers being posted.

I send a single payment from my Moneybookers account to a new email address. I then set up the new account to receive that payment. By doing it this way I automatically get the referral and on the face of it I am simply sending money I owe to someone. Once the payment is in the account it is self financing from there on. I also ask the new ID to set up a new clean bank account for me to use. This helps with the MB verification

When I first started it was for family and was as much about helping them as helping me. When I had finished all the mainstream accounts for the first time I had about £3k, so using this figure I paid my family £1k each. I arranged to pay them £100 per month for 10 months, giving me time to earn the money first. In return they supplied a utility bill, renewed every 3 months and some govt ID. Now I am using friends ID's and I buy them as cheaply as possible.

How much you can earn from a single account? It just keeps growing. Think about the WH risk frees and the reloads that come your way. Lately I have started to get a lot of accounts gubbed, not due to the multiple accounts (They'd close them all surely?) but simply as bookies are clamping down on arbers.

Finally my set up, I have a PC and laptop at home that I use. Both have Kaspersky AV on them and I have never found iesnare on my PC. I check it once a month to be sure. I have a dynamic IP which can be reset by simply unplugging my router and I have used 3 routers over the 2 1/2 years. I also have access to a PC at work. That said I have never been anal about which accounts I log into from where. I log in where I need, when I need, wherever I am.

Just this week my MB profit after all payments to ID's passed £70k. This has been done totally risk free (In the matched betting sense). I realise that doing what I have done is in itself risky and that any bookie could have confiscated winnings at any time, but with a single account right now I would only be sitting on £20k.

As a disclaimer to all who read this, I should say that to the best of my knowledge operating a betting account in someone else's name is illegal and you do so at your own risk. It is my considered opinion that a bookie would find it almost impossible to bring a prosecution and I always discuss with my ID's whether they would be prepared to say that they were operating the account. The real risk is that if you operate an account in someone else's name and a bookie confiscates your winnings, are you going to take them to court to get the money back?

[sillykiddo]

Congrats SS for your success truly. If I ever made only 5k from bookie I would just leave this bookie thing and paid my debts and become free.
SS I have a question do you also do casino bonuses? How do you do it ? I mean they have wagering requirements which is different from
Casino to casino. If you could give some hint on that would be helpful.

Also please show me if I can make or achice the target I mentioned. You said you made 70k in a week that's huge.

Your help would be much appreciated

Cheers

[SharpeShooter]

I said that this week I passed £70k TOTAL for 2 1/2 years.

I don't do much casino now as most don't allow Blackjack, and those that do have massive wr. For info on casino play check out http://www.cash-matters.com/CASINO/TUTORIAL.aspx

[Lfceoin]

Thank you Steve for taking the time to give such a comprehensive answer. I must say 70k is excellent money congratulations.

[Admin]

What I'll add to this has been said before but is worth repeating:
Never ever withdraw your winnings from a bookie unless you absolutely positively have to. For the long term, as long as the bookies remain in profit and see you individually as a customer that didn't cost them money, they wont care if you're an arber or out and out loser.
All they will really be interested in is your profit / loss bottom line-not the wins you had along the way. Even if it costs you a few pounds in the short term ( if the odds aren't quite arbs or narbs) this is better than being gubbed or worse having an account closed.
The trouble is you can't really appreciate the value of doing this as it's likely to be a while before such a thing happens, but trust me as the world financial crisis deepens we should all pray for bookies to stay in profit and keep the offers and reloads coming